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Jeremy Hise posted a new activity comment 6 years, 10 months ago
Hey Guy,
I am relatively new to this but have solved a few problems. I can’t really answer your question because I feel like the science objectives would really need to drive the sensor selection. If you are looking to reach a broad audience, then I guess I would go with some generally applicable environmental sensors such as temp/soil…[Read more]
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Jeremy Hise posted a new activity comment 7 years, 10 months ago
Neil this has been such a great conversation. Thank you.
I don’t understand the scale of 16. Could you elaborate or point me to a reference. I’m having a hard time googling that one. This sensor is a “cheaper” version of one that is in the field being used exactly for this purpose. That sensor has a temp. coefficient of +-400 ppm/K. This seems to…[Read more]
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Jeremy Hise posted a new activity comment 7 years, 10 months ago
Those are some great questions. Tree water/soil/atmospheric relations is where a lot of this work is pointed. Some species, like the Picea abies, can swell up to 0.006 mm in a 24 hour period, others less so, so I’m looking to detect changes within the 0.000-0.006mm range.
Generally speaking, would one start with identifying noise at the power…[Read more]
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Jeremy Hise posted a new activity comment 7 years, 10 months ago
Wow some great info. Thank you very much and I will check out the your blog as it seems this career path will be heavily involved in these kinds of problems. The design is straight forward, a Li-Polymer battery, arduino pro mini with the ADS1115, xbee series 2 and a Midori Precisions linear sensor…essential a variable resistor up to 1K. Trees…[Read more]
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Jeremy Hise posted an update in the group Datalogger developers 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi all, I’m pretty new to data logger development but have certainly gotten my feet wet. A project I am currently involved in requires measuring tiny changes in tree stem growth. So tiny, in fact, I believe I have to deal with signal noise from my power source/14 bit ADC. I know I can apply some statistical methods (ie. averaging with…[Read more]
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Hey thanks for posting. Interesting issue.
Noise in circuits is well studied and a deeeeeep issue. In circuits there are two types of noise to manage, faster than 1hz and then probably your main concern and more challenging less that 1Hz . Filtering out noise is useful at higher frequencies where low frequency noise is not an issue.
Managing…[Read more]-
Wow some great info. Thank you very much and I will check out the your blog as it seems this career path will be heavily involved in these kinds of problems. The design is straight forward, a Li-Polymer battery, arduino pro mini with the ADS1115, xbee series 2 and a Midori Precisions linear sensor…essential a variable resistor up to 1K. Trees…[Read more]
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Hey Jeremy,
Interesting project there – I’ve wondered about the effect on the trees when they are really transpiring in a heat wave,
and also what the delay was between heat peak for transpiration, and pulling the water from the ground, and stream.
So looking to measure 6microns, or 0.006mm across the LP-10F travel of 10.0 mm
I’m guess maybe you…[Read more]-
Those are some great questions. Tree water/soil/atmospheric relations is where a lot of this work is pointed. Some species, like the Picea abies, can swell up to 0.006 mm in a 24 hour period, others less so, so I’m looking to detect changes within the 0.000-0.006mm range.
Generally speaking, would one start with identifying noise at the power…[Read more]
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I think you have to look at all the noise sources with the level of measreument that you are looking at. So broadly for a 0.006mm range, you want some resolution in it, which defines what exactly is your 0. That in turn will translate to the noise floor that you need to exceed. So so you could use a scale of 16 – then you need to be able to…[Read more]
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Neil this has been such a great conversation. Thank you.
I don’t understand the scale of 16. Could you elaborate or point me to a reference. I’m having a hard time googling that one. This sensor is a “cheaper” version of one that is in the field being used exactly for this purpose. That sensor has a temp. coefficient of +-400 ppm/K. This seems to…[Read more]
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Hi Jeremy
My reference to 16 was that for a total change of 0.006mm its going to be broken down to a scale, and if you choose 1/16 (as its digital) then for 0.006mm/16 you would have a target of 0.000375 mm – which is very small.
Now looking at the LP-10F spec – which with a total travel of 10mm is better than 20mm for measuring something very s…[Read more]-
Just came across a devices that maybe could make small distance measurements
Piezoelectric film – the problem might be calibrating it.
That is it might be able to show a change in trunk diameter based on stress applied to the film, but how easy would it be to translate to metric mm?
Also it doesn’t contain a temperature dependency…[Read more]
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Jeremy Hise became a registered member 7 years, 10 months ago
I think you have to look at all the noise sources with the level of measreument that you are looking at. So broadly for a 0.006mm range, you want some resolution in it, which defines what exactly is your 0. That in turn will translate to the noise floor that you need to exceed. So so you could use a scale of 16 – then you need to be able to…[Read more]
Neil this has been such a great conversation. Thank you.
I don’t understand the scale of 16. Could you elaborate or point me to a reference. I’m having a hard time googling that one. This sensor is a “cheaper” version of one that is in the field being used exactly for this purpose. That sensor has a temp. coefficient of +-400 ppm/K. This seems to…[Read more]